It’s true.

4 09 2012

Les végétaliens sont des idiots.


I’m back!

9 10 2010

After being busy for quite sometime I’m back to blogging, however I’m going to change somethings…Come back soon to see the new Negotiation is Done.

New Website!

15 09 2009

To continue reading Negotiation is Done, please go to the new and improved website…


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Babble, another vegan like Dave and Camille.

7 09 2009

 Babble or should I say Ward (his first name), has to one of the most annoying vegans who I’ve talked with.


Babble/Ward knows how to annoy and anger people much better then Camille or Dave Warwak, this is largely impart due to the fact he still has a trace of sanity in him, not much, just a bit.


Ward created the forum “Babble Forum” (How lame of a name is that?), where vegans like him could go and talk. About 4 months after he opened it the PeTA forums shut down and his blog largely became the new PeTA/vegan forums.


Ward will deny this until he’s blue in the face, but what he won’t tell people is that in the days before the PeTA forums closed various links were posted to his forums, therefore alerting the members of the PeTA forums that another set of forums was available.


Once the PeTA forums closed, he denied this ever happened and closed registration to almost everyone, keeping the small group of people he had and had gotten.


I tried to join his forums multiple times and he failed to let me be a member, which I have no problems with, since I was mostly just seeing if I could get on them after he restricted everything.


Once he had done all the him and his members then decided they hated “PeTA” and would not associate with the group they were once part of.


I’ve had E-mail conversations with Ward and he’s almost as bad as Dave and Camille. I really think he wants to be like them , I have no doubts his goal is to get to the same place Dave and Camille are at.


Ward is just one of the many vegans who think he’s helping the animals in someway, but as we know, he’s only kidding himself.


We think there is still some hope for him, but we may be wrong.

Flight, The only response from a ARA

30 08 2009

Any of us who have attempted to have a logical debate with real facts know that ARA’s can’t and won’t; Or at least none we’ve ever talked to or met.


When presented with a logical facts based debate ARA’s tend to run and hide, they know they can’t and won’t win the debate and moreover know they’ll look like a fool in the end, therefore they avoid this.


We’ve seen this time and time again on Negotiation is Done and websites like Peta-sucks, however the question remains, Why?


ARA’s from early on are fed incorrect, biased information which is often also un-sourced; They’re on a moral high ground unable to see past the rhetoric they speak.


When presented with genuine information from the other side of what they believe, they resort to running and hiding, name calling, etc. anything to avoid debating or something similar.


The fact is ARA’s have been programmed not to debate, plain and simple.


Radical ARA’s and Blood Lust

19 08 2009

It’s apparent now. The force that drives you all has come into clear focus. I have watched and waited for it and now there it is. You are all blood thirsty. You vegans all have at some point in your lives danced next to the edge of the sadistic lust for killing. There is a tiny thread of humanity in you and when you could SEE yourselves for a moment, you ran your self loathing psyche as far away from your shadow selves as fast as you could.

David Warwak, on discussing rationalizing his past as a fishing guide:

And you may argue, “but I doubt that fishing satisfied any kind of sadistic bloodlust.”
In a way, it did. I didn’t realize it at the time. My warped mindset at the time, thought: the more the fish stuggled to stay alive, the better the fight, the better/healthier the meat was/tasted. I was so far removed from reality, I would fillet fish still alive. I am still ashamed. Anyways … my point is, I didn’t realize at the time, I was doing anything wrong because that is how I was raised. This just illustrates how important it is that we reach the children now as they are being fooled as we speak.

Camille Marino, on the topic of Warwak’s fish killing:

Actually, I’ve never fileted a fish in my life. I did murder one several years ago — took a live fish and fed it to an egret named Wimpy. But Wimpy was spoiled by human interference. He impaled the fish repeatedly but left it there to die; wouldn’t eat it. So I threw it back in the water and watched it struggle to try to right itself and swim while it left a trail of blood flopping around in the water.

Camille, on the topic of her Mother:

I starved my mother to death. she was weak and dehydrated and her brain was starting to go… and all she wanted was a chicken corpse to gnaw on.

mommy died!

Warwak, on mother and milk and blood:

I remember vividly how absolutely I hated milk as a child and I did not like meat. I had a natural aversion to it. I was forced to eat it and drink milk to a point where I felt like I had to trow up. When I could and mother did not look, I pored the milk down the drain, so did my brother. I also hated butter it made me gag and interestingly I also deplored eggs. Because I was forced to eat that stuff I eventually got used to some of it, I guess it’s called acquired taste.

I NEVER was able to drink milk, the ghastly smell of cows milk, that I had to get, directly from the “Bauer” never left my nostrils.

I remember when I was a child thinking many times that I could not wait to grow up, so I would not have to eat all that stinky stuff like kidneys, and liver and brains and meat and blood sausage and milk. I hated it with a passion.


bathe in renderings — eat cadavers and slurp secretions — Fat fucking selfish corpse-munchers — soulless corpse-munching mother fuckers — secretion-slurping flesh-eaters — putrified corpse parts, avian menstruations and secretions


Greedy mother-fucking corpse-munchers — schools are feeding children murdered diseased animals and their cancerous nasties — One corpse-munching nation under god, indigestible, with death and misery for all — Americans to feed their offspring blood, misery and death

Such disturbing and vivid imagery. Most “humans” don’t visualize like this. This is a reflection of your souls. The more you have tried to stuff the monster inside you into a tight container, the more distorted and twisted it has become. Instead of you owning it, in your fear and loathing, it has owned you. You have become what you most feared. Sadistic Hannibal Lectors.

Written by MsInformed of Peta-sucks, used with permission. Original Post can be found at “Radical ARA’s and Blood Lust

Owners Note: This post has stayed in it’s original form content wise, however has been edited to correspond with WordPress formatting.


10 08 2009

Earthlings, that video that so many radical vegans and ARAs refer to as they attempt to force you to go vegan, the sad part is, this works on a large number of people.

Earthlings is a documentary that aims to “expose” the “evils” of farming, eating meat and using aniamls. This video like others, is misrepresentative of what it’s trying to show.

Earthlings features the typical animal abuse scenes, people abusing the animals and above all comparisons of the animals to you’re next meal.

What the end-viewer doesn’t know is that a lot of these videos including Earthlings, has a good amount of doctored footage and a ton of untrue information. The reason Earthlings works is because people are naive and it’s presented in such a way that it targets emotions and not logic.

I’ve watched Earthlings from start to finish, it didn’t bother me and I ate lunch after watching it, How? I knew what to expect before watching and the true facts about the industry, I knew that anything on there was edited to look the worst it could.

I felt no need to go vegan after watch Earthlings and I can say with a straight face that Earthlings did not bother me, it had no effect.

The video only works on those who don’t know the facts and people who make choices largely on emotions, something this video targets.

Radical vegans and ARAs: This film won’t work on everyone, it won’t even work on most people. Take you’re propaganda somewhere else.