It’s true.

4 09 2012

Les végétaliens sont des idiots.


I’m back!

9 10 2010

After being busy for quite sometime I’m back to blogging, however I’m going to change somethings…Come back soon to see the new Negotiation is Done.

New Website!

15 09 2009

To continue reading Negotiation is Done, please go to the new and improved website…


(Link may not work right away. If it fails to take you to the new website, wait a few hours and try again. *Can take up to 24 hours.)

Babble, another vegan like Dave and Camille.

7 09 2009

 Babble or should I say Ward (his first name), has to one of the most annoying vegans who I’ve talked with.


Babble/Ward knows how to annoy and anger people much better then Camille or Dave Warwak, this is largely impart due to the fact he still has a trace of sanity in him, not much, just a bit.


Ward created the forum “Babble Forum” (How lame of a name is that?), where vegans like him could go and talk. About 4 months after he opened it the PeTA forums shut down and his blog largely became the new PeTA/vegan forums.


Ward will deny this until he’s blue in the face, but what he won’t tell people is that in the days before the PeTA forums closed various links were posted to his forums, therefore alerting the members of the PeTA forums that another set of forums was available.


Once the PeTA forums closed, he denied this ever happened and closed registration to almost everyone, keeping the small group of people he had and had gotten.


I tried to join his forums multiple times and he failed to let me be a member, which I have no problems with, since I was mostly just seeing if I could get on them after he restricted everything.


Once he had done all the him and his members then decided they hated “PeTA” and would not associate with the group they were once part of.


I’ve had E-mail conversations with Ward and he’s almost as bad as Dave and Camille. I really think he wants to be like them , I have no doubts his goal is to get to the same place Dave and Camille are at.


Ward is just one of the many vegans who think he’s helping the animals in someway, but as we know, he’s only kidding himself.


We think there is still some hope for him, but we may be wrong.

Camille, Dave Warwak, AR-CF and more proof.

7 09 2009

Late last week Camille Marino’s blog Negotiation is over (a blatant copy of Negotiation is Done) was hacked, with much of the more recent content deleted. While we can’t say we didn’t expect this to happen sometime who did it was a shocker, Dave Warwak.


Dave and Camille have been arguing with meat eaters and posting idiotic things on the blogs they own; But it happened, Dave decided Camille was just to crazy for him to associate anymore.


Does this mean I can have a shred of respect for Mr. Warwak? No really because he’s still playing the same old games and tricks, but for just a moment he did something amazing.


Once the hacking was over and Camille had made sense of it all, things started changing at Negotiation is Over, and these changes were not exactly subtle.


The most obvious one is the first thing you see on the front page, Camille’s website is no longer Negotiation is Over: Go vegan or Die, instead it’s simply Negotiation is Over. This also applies to all of here logos and images that included “Go Vegan or Die”, she changed them all.


Next is Camille’s changing motives, instead of ranting online (her only activity) she’s started a group in her area called “Animal Liberation – Central Florida”.


Will this group succeed? Not likely, That is unless she can find or make people like here in Central Florida. And even if it get going they won’t have much effect.


And on Sept. 5, 2009 Camille proved once again that she should have her website taken down by posting an article on direct action both legal and illegal. Read it here:

Flight, The only response from a ARA

30 08 2009

Any of us who have attempted to have a logical debate with real facts know that ARA’s can’t and won’t; Or at least none we’ve ever talked to or met.


When presented with a logical facts based debate ARA’s tend to run and hide, they know they can’t and won’t win the debate and moreover know they’ll look like a fool in the end, therefore they avoid this.


We’ve seen this time and time again on Negotiation is Done and websites like Peta-sucks, however the question remains, Why?


ARA’s from early on are fed incorrect, biased information which is often also un-sourced; They’re on a moral high ground unable to see past the rhetoric they speak.


When presented with genuine information from the other side of what they believe, they resort to running and hiding, name calling, etc. anything to avoid debating or something similar.


The fact is ARA’s have been programmed not to debate, plain and simple.


The war that wasn’t and won’t ever be.

24 08 2009

We hear a lot about “war” from radical vegans are ARAs, mostly only the worst of them like Camille, Dave and groups like the “ALF”. The fact that people claim to have a “war” going on with omnivores is humorous at best.

If vegans want a war I say bring it, if they think that they could actually take to fighting with us and win they’re so, so wrong.

The idea of war to these people is burning cars and buildings, but given the opportunity I doubt any of them would harm another human.

The claim is made by them that to be “peaceful” they must first be violent, something many, many people have said through history, a statement never gaining truth.

Lets look at it this way, most of the 6.5 Billion people in the world eat some type of meat, vegans are a minority, those ready for “war” are even less.

Lets also look at it from the point of view omnivores could defend themselves, vegans could not. Unless you need guns to hunt tofu, vegans have no use for such things.

Want a War? Bring it on.